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    Re: شہر ذات

    شیئرنگ کا شکریہ جی

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    گفتگو کرنے کا کچھ اُس میں ہُنر ایسا تھا
    وہ مری بات کا مفہوم بدل دیتا تھا
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    Re: شہر ذات

    شئیرنگ کا شکریہ

    تبصرے کا کہا ہے تو تبصرہ اتنا سا ہی کہ
    عمیرہ احمدک امخصوص انداز لیکن اس بار کچھ اچھا نہیں لگا

    وہی سب کچھ

    تفصیلا تبصرہ کیا تو پھڈا ہو جانا ہے اس لیے


    شکریہ

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    Re: شہر ذات

    i red dis long time ago and it touch my heart again in sum bits.

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    Re: شہر ذات

    Aslam of alikum

    My wife friend and our family friends insist us to read this book I usually don't like these books but they said we must read it

    Thankfully it is here and thanks to the person who upload it here

    Now I can bang their heads off why they wanted me to read this book anyway its full of so much misinformation and totally against general Islamic point of veiw

    Personally I never heard of Allah fearing people act like hindo sadhos who believes that being dirty and without any normal life is the way to reach Allah

    Secondly we r asked to do wohdu five times a day so being dirty is out of question
    About hazrat abuse bin odam I think I misspelled his name he loved humans but he didn't forget to remain
    Neat and clean and read namaz

    And about due to men women cannot become a prophet or walk this is a totally ignorant and offensive statement

    Holy Prophet peace and blessing of Allah be upon him wives loved him and became great scholars of islam
    Hazrat Rabiya basari is a well renowned wali

    And to love her husband is a woman job and obedience is also and same for men too to love and respect his wife

    It's a more like western woman approach that why we need men or why can't we do the same

    If allowed I will say more its a total misguided of Islam to general young people
    Why nobody said so is this author a political person or a saint

    It's not fair

    And the publisher didn't point out the things
    Peace on u

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    Re: شہر ذات

    ارے واہ گڈو بھائی اتنے مہینوں بعد نظر آئے وہ بھی ناراض ناراض؟ باتیں تو آُپکی کافی ٹھیک ہیں لیکن میں سمجھتی ہوں لکھنے والے کا یہ مطمع نظر نہ تھا۔ بعض اوقات عقیدت کے مارے ہم آلموسٹ سینس لیس ہو جاتے ہیں۔ تصویر کا ایک ہی رخ دیکھ کر لکھتے چلے جاتے ہیں اور احساس ہی نہیں ہوتا دوسری طرف اسکی کیا " بے دین " تصویر بن رہی ہے۔
    "There is no market for emotions.
    So,
    Never advertise feelings,
    Just display attitude"

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    Re: شہر ذات

    Aslam of alikum

    I was busy and secondly to be honest nothing boiled my blood like this book I think my friends just wanted to have fun by recommending this book

    Because having affiliation and respect for your believes is good but as an author one have to research about the topic too

    The theme is not bad but the way it is addressed is the issue

    U just cannot simply write things which ur not fully understood

    Like to claim of women not becoming prophets

    Honestly tell me how many young ladies who will read this will inwardly always have a inward debate about equality of men and women

    Secondly the relationships are shown as of no value

    Lastly Allah is the sole provider of the world's sources

    No human being can help or feed the entire world

    These are the questions of Atheists

    And the most important thing is that not only wealth is the test but being poor is also a test

    And the people who are blessed with health wealth if don't keep them selves according to their respective standards than that is ungratefullness

    In short the last pages where the ideas were laid there are serious matters addressed so in my opinion she who ever she is should have researched it

    Because these kind of babajis are only found in fiction in real history of Islamic I insist on the word Real you will find no such person who say do like that

    If u find sofi sayings these are metaphors and real sofi and walies are not like that

    These believes are usually christian in only by dropping every thing and become a Nun or father etc
    Or hindo belief that by going into mud or wearing no clothes going into jungles

    Is the only way to reach Allah

    We follow our Prophet peace and blessing of Allah be upon him and Khalifa and his sahabies none of the above did these things to reach Allah

    Once told about a Sahabi who kept fast during morning and spend night reading namaz nowafills

    Our Prophet peace and blessing of Allah be upon him told him that your wife and children have rights on him also every other thing have their right on him

    Lastly again Islam gives us all the same path five pillars of islam

    We don't need anything else besides these to reach Allah

    Why do these writers write in first place about the matters if their readers are usually average level one

    When a person write in these ladies magazines the readers are usually not mature enough or either not knowledgeable about deep sofi sayings or their own religious rights or duties

    The importance of remaining in this world with all its pros and cons and fulfilling your duties will take you to Allah

    Not just becoming insensitive or oblivious
    Peace on u

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    Re: شہر ذات

    This is what writer responds to the above mentioned allegations:

    Hazrat Rabia wali nahi hain sirf aik pious woman hain jin kay darjat hain.Islami tareekh mai walion k naamon mai kabhi un ka naam nahi ata laiken yeh kaha jata hai k woh aadhi wali theen.Wilayat ka aik poora silsila hota hai aur waliyon kay paas karamat hoti hain.Iss liye her naik pious aadmi wali nahi hojata.
    We should always read a story in its context.That will spare us from any misunderstandings and confusions.Shehrezaat presents everything symbollicaly and metaphysically.The faqeer is a symbol so is that keechar and so is that whole situation.In real life we will hardly come across a faqeer talking about wujood and zaat.In real life you will hardly come across a woman who reassure Falak that Allah still loves her.
    Majzoob ya faqeer hotay hain and most of them are found in pretty much the same way as the faqeer in Shehrezaat.Yeh jo safaiyon kay saray falsafay hain yeh tab tak hain jab tak deen aur duniya saath saath hain.Majzoob aur Faqeer k paas koi ritual nahi hoti Allah say ishq hota hai aur bus.We can question their life style and hygiene but only Allah know how true they are in their love for Allah and how dear they are to Allah.
    Shehrezaat yeh nahi kehta kay ganda raho sirf insaan ko yeh batata hai k baahar ki gandagi utni buri nahi jitni andar ki gandagi hai.Bahar ki gandagi tu Allah phir bhi maaf kar day ga andar ki gandagi nahi.

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    Aslam o alikum

    Thanks for replying. Problem is that it isn't shown as symbolic

    The main lead actually put mud on her face goes to shop asking for the worst clothing and acquiesce Men
    As the sole reason for women not acquiring the status of prophethood or becoming wali

    And her the main lead also acted in an abnormal way so the parents were rightfully worried about her
    State of mind

    If I were her parent. I would be like that too.

    The. Fakeer or the other their matter is with Allah. I know that

    But my point was that instead of acting like those people one can find some religious figure in her area and
    Asked for guidelines

    Because although they Fakeer log say many things but in depth there is no meaning in them its like fancy philosophy but no actual value

    The impression isn't symbolic. Because the lady actually acted weird

    And the end result that just because now u have Allah u don't have to love anyone or enjoy anything
    Is wrong

    And the last thing why she went back she wasn't a middle class woman or had any children to compromise

    Her life style changed and obviously she had no feeling for her husband. Why didn't took divorce and made good use of her wealth made schools etc

    And remarried to someone alike

    If it is symbolic do u actually think an average person can understand it especially when in rural areas where people are always finding babajis and fakeers
    Rest after namaz
    Peace on u

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    Aslam o alikum

    I know it's a novel about soul searching etc

    But the way it is written is not good okay its symbolic. Etc

    But how many will understand it

    Secondly the end it was absurd

    People will take it like a snob turn into angel and her husband came back. Now she will always look down on her husband as piece of furniture

    It's the best example of love for Allah

    If she truly felt that. Then she shouldn't go back him because he won't change and she will not say or do anything to change him

    It is cruel because one can live with a normal person but to live with self claimed righteous people who looks down to you is very hard

    If she truly felt. The love of Allah the things she did was just wear shwal and shut herself that's it

    What difference her soul actually made. Just few brusts of giving her things and shouting at her parents
    Etc

    And end result a self righteous snob who thinks of everyone as pieces of furniture

    Yes thanks for Fakeer stuff

    Now about the allegation of men being the. Sole reason for women not improving

    Womens do same for men some men lost everything due to some women

    And about being wealthy is bad etc

    I can't understand what difference it actually made to her

    Beside her husband degration

    She didn't do anything positive at all

    What's the point when she went back and didn't turn in to something special
    Peace on u

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    Quote Originally Posted by HasanUmar View Post

    Shehrezaat yeh nahi kehta kay ganda raho sirf insaan ko yeh batata hai k baahar ki gandagi utni buri nahi jitni andar ki gandagi hai.Bahar ki gandagi tu Allah phir bhi maaf kar day ga andar ki gandagi nahi.
    معذرت کے ساتھ باہر کی گندگی سے اندر کی گندگی کا گہرا تعلق ہوتا ہے۔ وہ گندگی چاہے معاشرتی ہو یا جسمانی ہماری روح پر اثر انداز ہوتی ہے، اور روح سے ہی مذہب اور خُدا کا تعلق ہے۔ ورنہ مسلمانوں کو ذہنی،جسمانی،روحانی اور معاشرتی پاکیزگی و صفائی کا حُکم نا دیا جاتا۔ صفائی نصف ایمان نا قرار دی جاتی۔
    دوسری بات کیا معاف ہو گا کیا نہیں اس کا بھی اللہ سوہنے کو ہی پتا ہے جن کو اپنے اگلے لمحے کا نہیں پتا ان کو ایسی پیشگوئیاں زیب نہیں دیتیں۔

    اگر کسی کو پتا ہے تو پوری بات یہاں لکھ دے میری معلومات کے مطابق شرک کے علاوہ ہر گناہ کی معافی اللہ بارک تعالٰی دے سکتے ہیں۔
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    Re: شہر ذات

    Assalam o Alaikum !!

    Kafi garma garam behas chal rahe hai ....
    Mian zayada nahe kahoon ga ... just 2, 3 batain likh kar baat khatam karoon ga ..

    1. Allah ne insanoon ko apni Mohabbat aur apan Taa'luq ata karne ke lye Anbiya Mab'oos farmiye , aur Kitabain ata farmaiye .. Pas jo bhi Allah se mohabbat karna chahta hai , ussko Nabi ki baat aur Quran ki baat man'ni ho gi ... ISS KE ILAWA ALLAH SE MILNAY KA KOI ZARIYA QABIL E QABOOL NAHE ....

    2. Tasawwuf aur Sofi Ussi waqt WALI ho sakte hain jab unn ki Zindagi Allah aur uss ke rasool ke hukam ke Taabay ho gi ... warna na koi Wilayat hai na koi achaie.. chahe samandaroon pe chalay .. ya hawaoon main urray. Sab se baray Aoliya Sahaba kiram thay jinhain Allah ne Quran main apni riza ka certificate dya ... app unn ki zindagiyoon ko dekh lain ... follow kar lain , Allah ki kitab Quran ko follow kar lain .. Allah ke nabi (SAWW) ki zindagi ko follow kar lain ... app wali ban jaiyeen gay ....

    3. Sorry in advance for this comment .. ke Umaira Ahmed ke aksar novels haqeeqat se bahuttttttttt dor hotay hain ... almost 90% novels main hero ya heroin extremely khubsurta.. rich .. aur Allah se bahutttttttt door hotay hain .. phir achanak wo Allah ke itnay qareeb ho jatayhain ke sab kuch chor daitay hain .... almost in every novel.. such extremism can be noticed ........ and some time it feels "rubbish" ....


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    Re: شہر ذات

    Quote Originally Posted by yours View Post
    Assalam o Alaikum !!

    Kafi garma garam behas chal rahe hai ....
    Mian zayada nahe kahoon ga ... just 2, 3 batain likh kar baat khatam karoon ga ..

    1. Allah ne insanoon ko apni Mohabbat aur apan Taa'luq ata karne ke lye Anbiya Mab'oos farmiye , aur Kitabain ata farmaiye .. Pas jo bhi Allah se mohabbat karna chahta hai , ussko Nabi ki baat aur Quran ki baat man'ni ho gi ... ISS KE ILAWA ALLAH SE MILNAY KA KOI ZARIYA QABIL E QABOOL NAHE ....

    2. Tasawwuf aur Sofi Ussi waqt WALI ho sakte hain jab unn ki Zindagi Allah aur uss ke rasool ke hukam ke Taabay ho gi ... warna na koi Wilayat hai na koi achaie.. chahe samandaroon pe chalay .. ya hawaoon main urray. Sab se baray Aoliya Sahaba kiram thay jinhain Allah ne Quran main apni riza ka certificate dya ... app unn ki zindagiyoon ko dekh lain ... follow kar lain , Allah ki kitab Quran ko follow kar lain .. Allah ke nabi (SAWW) ki zindagi ko follow kar lain ... app wali ban jaiyeen gay ....

    3. Sorry in advance for this comment .. ke Umaira Ahmed ke aksar novels haqeeqat se bahuttttttttt dor hotay hain ... almost 90% novels main hero ya heroin extremely khubsurta.. rich .. aur Allah se bahutttttttt door hotay hain .. phir achanak wo Allah ke itnay qareeb ho jatayhain ke sab kuch chor daitay hain .... almost in every novel.. such extremism can be noticed ........ and some time it feels "rubbish" ....


    Regards
    kashif
    Hum Kahan Kay Sacchay Thay----Main protagonist Mehreen Mansoor neither rich nor beautiful not even an out of this world girl a confident girl with ambition.
    Haasil---Hadeed Handsome and Rich but not at all a sinner a confused boy depicting today's youth.Sania Beautiful but not rich a girl who got mistracked because of her own mistakes.
    Koi Baat Hai Teri Baat Main---Walid Haider....Handsome,rich but neither too much religious nor too much liberal...Mazhab ki taraf woh bhi achanak nahi aya tha.
    Koi Lamha Khuwab Nahi Hota---Momina...Average Looking girl with so many complexes belonging to middle class.
    Zindagi Gulzar Hai---Kashaf Murtaza....Average girl with many positive as well as negative traits..
    Thora Sa Aasman----Fatima Mukhtar----A not so good looking woman with a very beautiful heart.
    Imaan,Umeed aur Mohabbat---Umeed Aalam---An ordinary girl not at all strong even not confident on her faith.Imaan Ali---A handsome man(look wise) but not with features or character to DIE for.
    Teri Yaad Khar-e-Gulaab Hai---Komail Haider---A typical guy who is inexpressive and he actually faced bad times due to this quality of his.
    Meri Zaat Zarra Benishaan---Aarfeen Abbas---A not so practicing muslim
    Saba Kareem---A practicing Muslim not beautiful but very strong
    Kindly don't quote Darbar-e-Dil,Shehrezaat,Pir-e-Kamil(s.a.w) and Man-o-Salwa as the only stories written by Umera Ahmed

    Thankyou..

    P.S:
    I am not active on this group much so I don't want to indulge in any sort of behas baraaye behas debate but I couldn't resist to post this comment after I saw that stereotypical blame on the writer...

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    Re: شہر ذات

    koi plzzz youtube or daily motion k elawa is novel based drama ka link bta de
    when life givz u smthing that makes u feel afraid,
    thats when life gives u a chance to b brav!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Romana View Post
    koi plzzz youtube or daily motion k elawa is novel based drama ka link bta de
    http://vidpk.com/72121/Drama-Serial-...Tv-Episode-1a/
    میں جن راستوں سے گزر جاتا ہوں ایک بار
    مڑ مڑ کے وہ نظارے بلاتے ہیں بار بار

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